After one of the most rigorous and highly competitive review processes in the history of military firearms, the SIG SAUER M17 was awarded the Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract for the U.S. Army. SIG Sauer impresses both numbers on the inside flap. I've commented on SIG’s modular concept before and believe it offers a good deal of flexibility and options for those who need or want a pistol that can be scaled up or down or converted to different calibers based on personal preference, duty assignment or mission requirement. No more double action/single action transition after the first shot. To make a long story short, SIG Sauer won with their P320 platform. GRAND RAPIDS, MI USA-(Ammoland.com)-The SIG SAUER M11-A1 is a pistol that has existed in both the shadows and the spotlight of today’s military scene. Some of these stories are probably wishful thinking on the part of the author while others are probably half-truths or rumors started on the firing range or around the gunshop counter. The Army sought a replacement as part of its Modular Handgun System (MHS) trials. In addition, there had been several earlier attempts to replace the M9 with a different handgun but these efforts were unsuccessful for one reason or another. One is the P320-M17B, which shares the same specs and features but is finished in black rather than coyote tan. The safety sits closely behind the slide catch lever. Modularity was undoubtedly a factor in SIG Sauer winning the highly-­coveted U.S. Army’s Modular Handgun System contract with the M17. Accuracy – Score: 9. Yes, lot number FKAR1915 generated a bit more velocity and recoil, but on target, the bullets landed in the same place as those from the other three lots. Monday, June 10, 2019. Five rounds were tested, and the average penetration depth was 14 inches. The most obvious difference between the two pistols is the color of the controls. SIG Sauer made worldwide news in 2017 as they won the U.S. Military's Modular Handgun System trials with a modified variant of its P320 handgun platform. The second is a standard production model called the P320-M17. The old and new lots of V-Crown ammunition showed a velocity variance of only 10 fps and the new lot of FMJ varied by 11 and 1 fps respectively. Pistol training and technology has changed quite a bit since the 1980s when the M9 was adopted. Unfortu-nately, this was not the lot number; it was the box number. Not to take anything away from the Commemorative, but I prefer handguns that can be used as tools rather than display pieces. See the above results for Sig P320. Non-manual safety P320-M17 pistols will be shipped at a later date. So what was wrong with the M9 and why was it replaced? Their entry into the striker fired market is the p320, a welcomed sight in a stagnating market and a very real replacement for Glock pistols for CCW and general shooting.Not sure about gun actions… Some other polymer-framed pistols on the market do have an enviable track record for reliability. The M9 uses an aluminum frame. You can find the lot number printed on the box somewhere. It can be configured to different sizes (carry down to sub-compact) and is also upgradable to a red dot optic (and comes stock with night sights). It should be ideal for your P320/M17 or any other 9 mm +P-capable handgun. However, a velocity variance of about 8 percent is a little extreme. Has a company like SIG outdone the rest of the pack with the P320? With all this in mind, the Army had wanted to replace the M9 for quite some time. The SIG M17 civilian pistol is being offered in two different forms. It is identical to the real Sig Sauer M17 in dimension and weight. Sig Sauer M17, the sidearm of freedom. The M17 features an ambidextrous slide lock and a well-designed ambidextrous safety. The pistol was also recently selected by the Norwegian government for military use. The sights are a SIGLITE front n… newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. Detractors of the Army’s new pistol are quick to point out that the P320 is an unproven design that should have been passed over in favor of a more time-proven handgun. After one of the most rigorous and highly competitive review processes in the history of military firearms, the SIG SAUER M17 was awarded the Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract for the U.S. Army. Initially, I provided the company with a number printed on the inside flap of the box. The striker system is generally more sealed with no exposed hammer slot that allows dirt and debris into the action. The M17 is a P320-based platform, and was selected for its uniquely innovative modularity, uncompromising performance, and unmatched capability. That’s better than average when it comes to 9 mm defensive-handgun ammunition. The M17-Commemorative is a 9mm, striker-fired pistol. It is a model that can be purchased, shot and enjoyed. The M17 and M18 are the P320 Full Size and Compact with a full size grip, manual safety, as well as a Coyote PVD finish. The two 9 mm M17 loads being offered are a 124-grain, V-Crown hollowpoint and a traditional, 124-grain FMJ bullet. SIG Sauer’s M17 9 mm ammunition offers consumers military-grade performance in FMJ and hollow-point configurations. SIG Sauer made worldwide news with the announcement in early 2017 that it had won the Modular Handgun System trials with a modified variant of its P320 handgun platform. The Army has chosen and chosen well. Another big minus for the legacy M9 is its lack of a frame rail. Shooting the pistol with either the right or left hand with a high thumb grip caused no issue. The second is a standard production model called the P320-M17. But it does an excellent job fitting a wide range of people and performing its duty with utter reliability.Plus it comes stock with night sights and can be upgraded to a red dot optic. The P250 was the beginning of SIG’s venture into a truly modular handgun with the P250’s removable frame chassis. A quick downward flick of the thumb released the safety and prepared the pistol to fire. It is true that the M17 is new, but to say that the P320 is untested isn’t exactly correct. There are a few other minor differences such as slide markings, serial number format and style of red dot sight mount but the two pistols look very much like the Army M17 after which they are patterned.As a student of the service handgun, the P320-M17 appeals to me. Fortunately that wasn't the case. (Just so you know, there are a variety of ammunition specifications used by the military. Furthermore, grasping the slide to chamber a round or clear a malfunction invariably forces the decocking lever down and renders the M9 inoperable until the lever is flipped back up. It earned a score of 89% in our comprehensive HAM test review. SIG engineers, realizing the chassis system gave them a unique firearm in the marketplace, set about converting the P250 into a striker-fired gun, with the P320 being the result. This ammo is loaded to military specifications. The first model is called the M17 Commemorative (right) and has a limited run of only 5,000 pistols. The P250 is a hammer-fired pistol and was introduced at a time when consumers were trending away from hammer-fired guns. Without the hammer and related hammer strut and spring, the grip circumference can be reduced, thereby accommodating shooters with smaller hands. Two models of the pistol were selected for military service: a full-size M17 and a compact M18. This SIG AIR M17 Pellet Pistol Reflex Sight is a huge asset to the M17. I reached out to the ammunition specialists from SIG Sauer and asked them to explain. The Sig Sauer M17 is the closest a civilian will get to the Army’s issued sidearm. I found it to be reliable, accurate, easy to operate and maintain. Soldiers on the range testing the new Sig Sauer M17. SIG SAUER M11-A1 Pistol. First, a P320 variant dubbed the M17 won the incredibly prestigious U.S. military Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract. The first model is called the M17 Commemorative (right) and has a limited run of only 5,000 pistols. This thumb safety was replaced by the slide-mounted decocking lever on the M9. Other efforts, solicitations and trials have come and gone but the Army finally got it done and in 2017 finally announced the SIG Sauer P320, called the M17 in Army guise, as the M9’s successor. The difference with the SIG Sauer M17 ammo is that you’re getting the same +P performance with both loads, which are loaded to stringent military specs. I was very pleased with the P320-M17’s accuracy during range testing. The next test involved a velocity/recoil/point-of-impact comparison between the V-Crown and FMJ M17 loads. A cracked plastic frame on most competing designs means the gun is bound for the trashcan. It houses 20 .177 pellets and a single CO2 cartridge. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America. However, before getting into how the different lots performed, let’s discuss lot numbers, where to find them and what they mean. There is a coyote-tan PVD coated stainless steel slide and black controls just like the pistols currently being shipped to the U.S. Army. Normally known for its double action, single action hammer fired pistols, Sig Sauer is the gold standard for semi-auto handguns. (Photo from US Army) Comparing the M9 to the M17, gone are the external hammer, double … Specifications:Manufacturer: SIG SauerSKU: 320F-9-M17-MS (other models available)Caliber: 9 mm LugerAction Type: Striker-firedSights: 3-dot tritium with removable optic plateSlide Finish: Coyote tan PVD stainless steelBarrel Length: 4.7”Overall Length: 8”Overall Height: 5.5”Magazine Capacity: 17+1Weight: 1.85 lbs.MSRP: $768Additional Reading:In the Company of Soldiers: The U.S. M17 & M18 Modular Handgun Systems  M1152 & M1153: The Army's New 9 mm Luger Loads  Known But to God: The Unknown Soldier and the U.S.S. Aluminum or steel frames were the norm in the 20th century but these materials have largely been replaced with polymer, which reduces weight and lowers cost. The new civilian-variant SIG P320 M17 pistol is based on the US Army version, and shooters may be pleasantly surprised with just how similar it is. Airsoft originated from Japan in the early 1970s, trademarked as “soft air gun“, tailoring to the needs of shooting enthusiasts while conforming to Japan’s strict gun control. Given that many who will purchase the P320/M17 are doing so because it’s the chosen handgun of our armed forces, having ammunition branded similarly is probably a great marketing idea. by Richard Mann - Thus the XM17 Modular Handgun System competition was brought to fruition. The idea behind M17 ammunition is to offer civilian consumers military-grade ammunition for practice and self-defense that delivers the same velocity, recoil impulse and point-of-impact. Model: Sig Sauer M17 Power source: 12g CO2 capsule Calibre:.177 Muzzle velocity: Up to 430fps Accessory rail: Standard Picatinny 1913 Sights: Fixed with white inserts Magazine: 20-round Length: 8-inches Weight: 2.15lb Price: £199.9 Spare magazine: £34.99 .177 VelociPell pellets: £5.99, tin of 500 Contact: Highland Outdoors. The SIG Sauer P320 shares the grip, magazine and barrel of the P250. However, understand all ammunition is loaded to perform within a performance window. With the addition of the frame-mounted thumb safety, the plastic grip module can no longer be swapped out with many of the size or color options on the market. They chose the M17 and the M18. The M17 is a P320-based platform, and was selected for its uniquely innovative modularity, uncompromising performance, and unmatched capability. Both are a standard for the American serviceman and both have worked well, albeit with some refinements along the way. After one of the most rigorous and highly competitive review processes in the history of military firearms, the SIG SAUER M17 was awarded the Modular Handgun System (MHS) contract for the U.S. Army. I tested the two additional lots of SIG Sauer M17 ammunition and the original lots at the same time to get a better idea of the variance that might be expected. Currently, SIG offers full-size and compact versions of the P320, in both 9mm and .40 S&W, with .357 SIG versions on the way. The first model is called the M17 Commemorative (right) and has a limited run of only 5,000 pistols. The old lot of FMJ (#FKAR1915) was just as fast as it was the first time I tested it. SIG Sauer launched the P320 line in 2014 and it has quickly become the issued sidearm for numerous American law enforcement agencies, including the Texas Department of Public Safety and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The ASP caddy resembles the M17’s 21-round mag until it is removed. Currently, the SIG SAUER P320 is best known for two things. Like SAAMI, SIG Sauer allows for certain tolerances in ammunition performance. The goal was to replace the M9 with a modern pistol that could fill a number of roles. Keep in mind, variation between lots of ammunition like this is not unique to SIG Sauer; you’ll likely see similar results with any mass-produced ammunition—if you happen to get the right or wrong mix of lot numbers. Sig Sauer does not (at least not yet) make these in any caliber other than 9mm. Practice and carry ammunition with identical performance characteristics is a great idea, but nothing new; several ammunition manufacturers have done it for years. Sig currently markets three different commercial variants of the M17, with slight differences from the military’s pistol, in Commemorative, P320-M17, and P320-M17 Bravo models. Striker-fired pistols, uncommon 30 years ago, have become the norm, and for good reason. A damn fine pistol, the civilian variant of the Sig Sauer M17 is more than ready for everyday duty. To complement its P320/M17—the duty handgun chosen by the U.S. Army—SIG Sauer is now offering M17 ammunition. The caddy houses both the CO2 cartridge and SIG Sauer’s patented belt-­fed magazine. As an important aside, the standard velocity deviation for lots tested was, quite impressively, in the single digits. It appears, for now at least, that the M16 will continue to serve on into to the future, but the Beretta M9’s time in service will soon be ending. This level of accuracy is quite impressive for a “duty” handgun. SIG Sauer suspected this was the case with the two loads—lot numbers—I received. The SIG Sauer M17 and M18 are service pistols used by the United States Armed Forces.. On January 19, 2017, the United States Army announced that a customized version of the SIG Sauer P320 had won the Army's XM17 Modular Handgun System competition.The full-sized model will be known as the M17, and the smaller-sized carry model will be known as the M18. Just because a pistol is well-­suited for the Army doesn’t necessarily mean it will be a good fit for private citizens, or even that it … The decocking lever, in my experience, sits too high on the pistol to be easily manipulated. America’s first and probably most recognized semi-automatic, the 1911, featured a frame-mounted safety that allowed the pistol to be carried in Condition One with a round in the chamber and the safety on. It’s the only practical and realistic way to mass-produce ammunition (or anything else for that matter). The particular specification SIG Sauer conforms to with its M17 ammo does not include waterproofing.) Most importantly though, all four lots shot to the same point-of-impact at 15 yards. So, we must assume that specific lot of ammunition was built on the upper/outer edge of the allowable tolerance. Of course shooters who do not use a high thumb grip will have no worries at all. Externally the two pistols look very similar. Without a rail there’s no easy way to mount a light or laser. The P320-M17 (top) looks quite a … It seems nearly every week some news outlet or firearms blog is reporting that the Army is looking to replace one firearm in inventory with this, that or the other. Reviewed in the United States on July 30, 2020 Style Name: M17 CO2 Mag Belts Verified Purchase Sig Sauer M17 only comes with 1 magazine so you need extras or you are loading and reloading. Second, it recently went through a social media blitz when an independent tester discovered that under certain conditions the pistol could discharge when dropped. The SIG AIR P320 M17 ASP Pellet Pistol is an excellent choice for plinking and training. Additionally, the striker system usually results in a better and more consistent trigger. That’s a difference of 91 fps, and from a recoil standpoint, a variance of 13 percent. Gun Review: Does the SIG P320 M17 Pistol Live Up to the Army Hype? This chassis can be removed from the frame’s plastic grip shell, allowing the user to change grip length or girth with no tools or without buying another firearm. It ships with two 17-round magazines. Privacy Policy   •   Contact Us   •   Warnings   •   FAQs   •  © 2020 National Rifle Association of America, Women On Target® Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Ambassadors, NRA Outstanding Achievement Youth Award Presented by Brownells, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, In the Company of Soldiers: The U.S. M17 & M18 Modular Handgun Systems, M1152 & M1153: The Army's New 9 mm Luger Loads, Known But to God: The Unknown Soldier and the U.S.S. The SIG M17 pistol is a service-size handgun at 8 inches long, 5.5 inches high, 1.3 inches wide and 29 ounces unloaded. This allows an ammunition manufacturer to track ammo and identify ammo if a problem is found with it. Much nicer to have a few ready to go. The holster is nicely shaped and molded and fits the SIG well.I did have an initial concern about the pistol’s frame-mounted thumb safety. As a side note, SIG is offering two additional pistols that are inspired by the P320-M17. There are a number of stories circulating now indicating that the Army is going away from 5.56 NATO in favor of some type of new 6.8 mm cartridge. The M17 Commemorative pistol shares the same components, coatings, and markings as the pistol that was awarded the U.S. Army contract for the modular handgun system (MHS). Being a standard catalog item, there is no concern about devaluing a limited production collector gun. There is lots of metal in the Sig Sauer M17 ASP CO2 Blowback Pellet Pistol similar to where you would find it in the real steel version. Not exactly what you would expect from ammunition intended to deliver identical performance. And oh, remember that modular concept? But as the Army is set to field upwards of 500,000 new M17 and M18 Modular Handguns to replace the 1980s-era M9 Beretta pistol, We Are The Mighty got an exclusive look at the impressive new firearm from the folks who designed and built it.. Weight retention was 100 percent across the board, and the bullets expanded to an average of .56 inches, or 1.57 times their original diameter. The SIG M17 civilian pistol is being offered in two different forms. Interestingly, we’re now seeing a return to our roots, as it were, with the M17 and its frame-mounted safety. 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